Xaya
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Post by Xaya on Jul 15, 2017 5:07:37 GMT -5
I realize this is going back a ways, but there's been on number of comments about the Goblin Glider Kit recently, and I once again feel the need to ask, how is 'Reduces your falling speed for 2 min' not an external buff? Reviewed some threads and could find nothing defending the addition of the Goblin Glider Kit, and seems most experienced Irons felt that it should not be allowed. A question on the updated FAQIronman Challenge - 2016 - "Back to Basics"I am usually overruled in my opposition to changes that make things easier, if even just a little, but once again I feel the need to ask, what is the justification for allowing Goblin Glider Kits? Seems like an ability that any self-respecting Iron would oppose, and clearly in violation of the 'no external buffs' rule. While I agree on gliders being not very ironlike (I don't use them myself), they still are white items. When we put on a new set of white gear, our armor or damage improves, so they could also be considered 'external buffs' even if there is no timer on them
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Post by Ironworgen on Jul 15, 2017 6:56:36 GMT -5
... When we put on a new set of white gear, our armor or damage improves, so they could also be considered 'external buffs' even if there is no timer on them I disagree with that interpretation. There is nothing external about armor and damage improvements from allowed gear, that's what gear does. Saying gear is an external buff would result in a challenge that no one wants to play, so it's reasonable that White or Gray gear is the rule. Gliders are an item that you use, much like potions (which are not allowed), which provides a buff, and has been disallowed from the beginning I believe.
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Post by mosotti on Jul 15, 2017 14:39:09 GMT -5
The idea is to make the challenge about the actual game, and make it fun, not tedious and retarded. That's why it's a VERY GOOD idea that we can use ALL the mounts and also that we can avoid retarded dismount bugs. Walking like an idiot for hours is NOT a challenge and also dying from a bug has nothing to do with any challenge. Apart from that, anyone can make his own extra rules. For example, I play naked...
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Post by Margothon Lord of the Elements on Jul 16, 2017 2:19:32 GMT -5
The idea is to make the challenge about the actual game, and make it fun, not tedious and retarded. That's why it's a VERY GOOD idea that we can use ALL the mounts and also that we can avoid retarded dismount bugs. Walking like an idiot for hours is NOT a challenge and also dying from a bug has nothing to do with any challenge. Apart from that, anyone can make his own extra rules. For example, I play naked... I hope you close the curtains
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Post by Ironworgen on Jul 20, 2017 3:07:12 GMT -5
... how is 'Reduces your falling speed for 2 min' not an external buff? I can only interpret the complete lack of explanation or justification over the past week as confirmation that the community has lost all interest in trying to defend or uphold the integrity of the Challenge. The Challenge has completely deteriorated into nothing more than the Rusted Challenge or the Tarnished Challenge.
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Post by mosotti on Jul 22, 2017 14:44:09 GMT -5
... how is 'Reduces your falling speed for 2 min' not an external buff? I can only interpret the complete lack of explanation or justification over the past week as confirmation that the community has lost all interest in trying to defend or uphold the integrity of the Challenge. The Challenge has completely deteriorated into nothing more than the Rusted Challenge or the Tarnished Challenge. Yeah, it's very easy now, tons of level 110, including you
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Post by mrmacman65 on Aug 12, 2017 17:11:46 GMT -5
Is a talisman of true treasure tracking allowed?
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Post by mosotti on Aug 16, 2017 10:05:08 GMT -5
Yes, it is.
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Post by mrmacman65 on Aug 26, 2017 12:04:42 GMT -5
Thank you!
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 27, 2017 2:42:12 GMT -5
Hello, I'm new to this challenge/site, and I'm trying to make sure I follow all the rules. I do have a question, though.
Can we backtrack in questing, while participating in this Ironman Challenge?
I created a Draenei who completed all of Azuremyst Isle and Bloodmyst Isle. I was wondering if it was possible to backtrack to Teldrassil and work down, from there?
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Post by Crystalpall on Aug 27, 2017 7:37:20 GMT -5
Yes, there's nothing stopping you from doing that it's not the most effcient thing to do but if you feel like it - go for it
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 28, 2017 20:52:10 GMT -5
Yes, there's nothing stopping you from doing that it's not the most effcient thing to do but if you feel like it - go for it Thank you. I agree, not efficient, but I am a completionist xD EDIT: With the Barracks, I understand we cannot have Barracks 2 nor 3, but the main reason is "no Bodyguards". Is it possible to still upgrade the Barracks but just not use the Bodyguards? Level 3 Barracks allows cosmetic changes to your Garrison guards. I'd like to be able to have that.
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Xaya
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Post by Xaya on Aug 29, 2017 16:49:46 GMT -5
Yes, there's nothing stopping you from doing that it's not the most effcient thing to do but if you feel like it - go for it Thank you. I agree, not efficient, but I am a completionist xD EDIT: With the Barracks, I understand we cannot have Barracks 2 nor 3, but the main reason is "no Bodyguards". Is it possible to still upgrade the Barracks but just not use the Bodyguards? Level 3 Barracks allows cosmetic changes to your Garrison guards. I'd like to be able to have that. bodyguards cannot be tracked, so if we allow baracks lvl 2 some ppl will use bodyguards. Sorry for you cosmetics changes
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Post by Asyluun on Aug 30, 2017 1:32:07 GMT -5
The Ironman challenge is not about completion that will get you dead young padwan
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Post by mrmacman65 on Sept 25, 2017 14:23:57 GMT -5
Is it okay to "buy" items from other players or your other characters if you pay a fair AH price? I'm thinking of sending food mats to my passive COD?
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