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Post by brittleiron on Dec 29, 2015 8:41:56 GMT -5
Well as I said before when WoD released green mobs were hitting harder than this... hell even barely gray mobs were hitting harder than this.
I'm thankful to see this has changed to be more like it used to be in regards to green mobs and I'm sure I can get a warrior back to higher levels again now assuming things don't change majorly.
Warrior has always been my favorite/main Iron class but when WoD was released they just were unplayable... glad to see they are viable again.
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Post by LokivTokiv on Dec 29, 2015 8:55:13 GMT -5
Just by reading your response things must been a hell lot harder before WoD. And you had to marco stances then, I can´t begin to image the stress of that play-style. The play-style today seems primitive in comparison.
I have no doubt that you will! =D
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Post by brittleiron on Dec 29, 2015 9:02:58 GMT -5
Actually things were much easier before WoD (especially in Cata).... thunderclap (which we no longer get) reduced the mobs attack rating, execute wasn't taken away, stance dancing wasn't really needed in my opinion, shield slam for 1h/shield warriors, Slam for 2h warriors and no reduced exp on "old" content. Not to mention revenge was a heavy hitting ability as well that we no longer get.
But at WoD release like I said green mobs were hitting harder than they seem to be now... not sure when that changed but I know it has. Gives me hope for having fun doing this again rather than struggling to kill gray mobs to complete barely green quests.
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Post by LokivTokiv on Dec 29, 2015 9:18:58 GMT -5
Did Thunderclap slow those affected like today? Because that would have been a nice addition. I can´t remember even tho I was maining Prot Warr in Cata...
I´m curious to what caused that change, will take a look are and see if I find a answer to that question in the older patch notes.
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Post by Lyssan on Dec 29, 2015 9:23:31 GMT -5
Brittle, it's still hard at higher levels. I took my 79 dead iron warrior in Dragonblight for a test run and level 73 regular mobs are leaving me at 30% HP. I can't see how surviving 2 mobs is possible even with this level difference. I always considered a warrior run doable even after WoD but painfully slow, because the only source of experience for several levels (especially in Outlands) is exploration, chests and dailies (all 2 of them). Again, how a warrior can level from 61 to 65 from chests and non-combat quests in a couple of days is a mystery to me. Lokiv, there are plenty of chest locations in Zangarmarsh, true, but I've done whole zone flybys multiple times before where I found 0 chests. Their respawn rate is 8-16 hours and you would need hundreds to gain those levels. Not to mention that most of them are in Naga camps crawling with hostile mobs. Again, the leveling method is not questionable - it's probably the only way to do it as a warrior - what I question is the speed.
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Post by brittleiron on Dec 29, 2015 9:25:08 GMT -5
Did Thunderclap slow those affected like today? Because that would have been a nice addition. I can´t remember even tho I was maining Prot Warr in Cata... I´m curious to what caused that change, will take a look are and see if I find a answer to that question in the older patch notes. No it didn't slow like it does now.... it acted like demoralizing shout
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Post by brittleiron on Dec 29, 2015 9:26:59 GMT -5
Brittle, it's still hard at higher levels. I took my 79 dead iron warrior in Dragonblight for a test run and level 73 regular mobs are leaving me at 30% HP. I can't see how surviving 2 mobs is possible even with this level difference. I always considered a warrior run doable even after WoD but painfully slow, because the only source of experience for several levels (especially in Outlands) is exploration, chests and dailies (all 2 of them). Again, how a warrior can level from 61 to 65 from chests and non-combat quests in a couple of days is a mystery to me. Lokiv, there are plenty of chest locations in Zangarmarsh, true, but I've done whole zone flybys multiple times before where I found 0 chests. Their respawn rate is 8-16 hours and you would need hundreds to gain those levels. Not to mention that most of them are in Naga camps crawling with hostile mobs. Again, the leveling method is not questionable - it's probably the only way to do it as a warrior - what I question is the speed. My testing on my 70 warrior was similiar but I'm giving a full test run again to see if maybe just maybe things changed enough to be viable again even if it is slow.
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Post by LokivTokiv on Dec 29, 2015 10:30:00 GMT -5
Brittle, it's still hard at higher levels. I took my 79 dead iron warrior in Dragonblight for a test run and level 73 regular mobs are leaving me at 30% HP. I can't see how surviving 2 mobs is possible even with this level difference. I always considered a warrior run doable even after WoD but painfully slow, because the only source of experience for several levels (especially in Outlands) is exploration, chests and dailies (all 2 of them). Again, how a warrior can level from 61 to 65 from chests and non-combat quests in a couple of days is a mystery to me. Lokiv, there are plenty of chest locations in Zangarmarsh, true, but I've done whole zone flybys multiple times before where I found 0 chests. Their respawn rate is 8-16 hours and you would need hundreds to gain those levels. Not to mention that most of them are in Naga camps crawling with hostile mobs. Again, the leveling method is not questionable - it's probably the only way to do it as a warrior - what I question is the speed. I can clearly see that our takes on the leveling process of the warrior are somewhat the same but at different approach and prioritize. When you tested the mobs in Dragonblight, what gear were you using, what rotation did you use, did you reach 30% after you used a badage or none? And why would you ever pull two mobs as a Warrior except when your doing the Break points or other past content? And why prioritize quests that involve fighting instead of the risk free ones first in all other zones and then start at again with Howling Fjord and Boren Tundra ? Yes, the quests will give you around 1-2,5k but that add up at a rapid rate when most mobs are grey or close to grey. As I have said yes, Warriors are slow without a doubt. At lv 62 you have Spirits of Auchindoun which I have pointed out is a a high risk award but doing it Darkmoon Faire that is a realm with Low pop and doing it at night when most players are offline. This also covers the chests when playing on a low pop server with low amount of high level Ironmans and normal players not actively searching for chests. And chests are only only confined in Zanagamarsh but all of Outland as you know. Also I want to point out that at lv 61 and a few levels forward that the rares in Blasted Lands that drops the green and blue Orbs still gives 200 exp and some even more. Not much but just flying a couple of minutes gives 2,8k and some thing to sell at AH. Can you refer me to your source that states the respawn timer on the chests? I want to read because that would be to of great help actually. As I have stated I have basically spent 9-16 hours a day since the beginning on a numberful of warriors and now when my current Warrior hit 60 on December the 12th and gotten another 21 levels in 17 days. I play this game ALOT, to much in fact. You can do alot during that time. "Not to mention that most of them are in Naga camps crawling with hostile mobs." From my perspective you can´t have played a Warrior during WoD past level 52 if this -> www.wowhead.com/spell=5246/intimidating-shout + Running a bit of the mobs aggro range + www.wowhead.com/spell=58984/ shadowmeld eludes you. You can´t treat the Warrior the same way as a Ranged class when it comes to what you should avoid and what you should take advantage off. I apologize if have sound hostile but have been on the defensive since I joined this site.
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Post by Lyssan on Dec 29, 2015 10:54:58 GMT -5
Hmm, ok.
Although I admit that my experience with warriors is mostly pre-WoD I don't think there is a big secret to play them. They really don't offer much in terms of choices. Anyways, I wish you luck in your journey. Looking forward to see you getting from 90-100 in 5 days!
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Post by LokivTokiv on Dec 29, 2015 11:24:46 GMT -5
That is exactly the thing there isn´t! There are some "tricks" but nothing convoluted. Thank you very much and I hope everything goes well with yours and I apologize for my tone.
That will be impossible because I won´t touching WoD content, quite litterly scared shitless of The Dark Portal event. I´m thinking of going with the strategy of planting myself in MoP and doing the rest of the way with all the dailys I have come across.
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Post by ironmanpaff on Dec 30, 2015 12:12:21 GMT -5
Well for me as bloodthirsty i am able to do 1 to 3 levels on a 10 hour "work day" ... For me i have no questing... so i am a little at a disadvantage in that regard, so ill be happy with my progress. What caught my attention was the times of the achievements, it was almost like continuous play from the start aka 2 or 3 people running the same toon. that said i do feel with 7 days of play time the level is well within the abilities of even a warrior needed 20-30 kills per bar and 20 bars per level... enjoy As i work from Home trading Forex, i think i am going to take a few days and level and work at this. I am wanting the bloodthirsty first warrior at least and its time to get busy. Is it lvl 90 or 100 i have to get to by the way? in either case Good luck to all and enjoy the day
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Post by ironmanpaff on Dec 30, 2015 12:35:20 GMT -5
What caught my attention was the times of the achievements, Lingermark 81 Warrior Night Elf eu - Darkmoon Faire, i did this reply because i wanted to make sure i was talking about the same warrior , good luck to all, and i look at amazement to the effort and persistence of all, now if the world could get this kind of devotion to getting into space and going to other planets
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Post by LokivTokiv on Dec 30, 2015 12:44:18 GMT -5
Well for me as bloodthirsty i am able to do 1 to 3 levels on a 10 hour "work day" ... For me i have no questing... so i am a little at a disadvantage in that regard, so ill be happy with my progress. What caught my attention was the times of the achievements, it was almost like continuous play from the start aka 2 or 3 people running the same toon. that said i do feel with 7 days of play time the level is well within the abilities of even a warrior needed 20-30 kills per bar and 20 bars per level... enjoy As i work from Home trading Forex, i think i am going to take a few days and level and work at this. I am wanting the bloodthirsty first warrior at least and its time to get busy. Is it lvl 90 or 100 i have to get to by the way? in either case Good luck to all and enjoy the day I haven´t tried Bloodthirsty at all, not really my thing. I going to tell you right now that I am saluting you for doing Bloodthirsty with a Warrior and Non-NE. That is some brutal stuff. From my experience from the Warrior is that the Expansion tranzitions are both the toughest and better leveling process for a normal Ironman run. For a Bloodthirsty Warrior its going to be a nightmare just because you can´t do dailys or even chests to boost you levels so you can fight mobs safely and effectively in outlands and onwards. The thing is when you hit 60 you receive 75% less experience for killing mobs in Vanilla content to "force" players to Outland and just that fact makes Bloodthirsty tough as nails for Warriors. But as an Bloodthirsty you should learn were the rares are in each zone to give a solid chuck of exp if the rare isn´t to dangerous based on its abilities.To reach the podium you need to reach the level cap of the current expansion, 100. Power to you and great success on your run! .
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Post by ironmanpaff on Dec 30, 2015 12:52:09 GMT -5
Start of Day report: Current layout lvl 36 9030 || 46000 exp on this level, at 1pm EST Area of Leveling: Arathi Highlands South of Hammerfall between the cliffs and road parallel stopping before the lake at witherbark and turning around and heading back north toward Hammerfall routine does 2 bars per pass.
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Post by lehmkade on Dec 30, 2015 23:28:48 GMT -5
I seen the concern of me using Recruit-a-Friend as to boost my leveling so all I can to refute this claim is to print screen my account and an in-game print screen. I do t think RAF is something to worry about. From what I remember you cannot grant levels unless you're in group.
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