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Post by notso on Apr 26, 2012 19:02:21 GMT -5
I waited until L82 to do the post partum agression quest. And I did not use the mammoth as I always do poorly on vehicle quests. I let my pet tank her and ground her down.
I have skipped Return Sevenfold so far. I f he threw the spell at me so i could reflect it, that would be good. But he does it on my pet. By now, the 16k exp i can get safer somewhere else.
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Post by sharmarli on Apr 27, 2012 7:41:32 GMT -5
For anyone's that's ranged, when/if you're planning on opening the Hodir dailies and doing the quest The Drakkensryd: www.wowhead.com/quest=12886 you can Dot/Shoot your next target before changing drakes. I personally DoT'd up my next target, let them tick down to about half before I changed drakes. It saved me alot of damage taken. Additionally, when "dismounting" from the drake onto Thorim's platform I took 2300 damage for whatever reason. Glad I had healed up after killing the last drakerider. One last thought, after dismounting onto the platform, it leaves you standing at the very edge so make sure you don't actually walk off, just for kicks it screwed up my camera viewing when I dismounted as well.
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Post by iarnaig on Apr 27, 2012 7:57:52 GMT -5
Damn, wish I'd known that before I did it, I just waited till I had plenty of health before trying! And yeah landing on the edge of that platform feels very not safe, I got on my flying mount before moving an inch there :-)
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Post by sharmarli on Apr 27, 2012 8:10:41 GMT -5
I apologize I should have put that post up yesterday but Real Life's been a bit crazy this week and I forgot.
I'm not sure if you can get credit out and out killing them without jumping onto their drake at all. I tried actually but they got out of range before my DoT's killed them, though that might explain that one drakerider that was bugged and flailing in midair without falling.
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Post by notso on Apr 27, 2012 11:38:02 GMT -5
For anyone's that's ranged, when/if you're planning on opening the Hodir dailies and doing the quest The Drakkensryd: www.wowhead.com/quest=12886 you can Dot/Shoot your next target before changing drakes. I skipped them because of the ranged problem. I hadn't thought about doing it that way. when you do frosthold, be cautious about doing the The Brothers Bronzebeard quest. You have to fight melee while riding the plane. I stupidly started this one and got the plane shot out from under me. But luckily I landed outside in the snow and did not die.
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Post by sharmarli on Apr 27, 2012 12:26:18 GMT -5
I've skipped The Brother's Bronzebeard quest for that reason. while being in melee range isn't as much of a problem aside for the damage I'd take, I wasn't convinced I could burn them down fast enough to prevent the plane getting damaged out from under me however.
I admit that I dislike the thought of being caught in a situation with absolutely no escape route if things begin to go poorly.
I'm glad to hear you survived.
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Post by iarnaig on Apr 27, 2012 14:01:25 GMT -5
I skipped Brothers Bronzebeard for the exact same reason, checked it out on wowhead, saw enough comments from hunters having trouble and figured a warlock won't be a lot better off (at least not a warlock in greys!). Glad you survived it but eek, that must've been a scary moment!
I've skipped an awful lot of vehicle quests and similar now; just not worth the risk when I'm so close to 85. By doing everything possible in Northrend I made it to 83.7 which was a lot better than I expected tbh, I'm now in Hyjal and very relieved to discover that mobs are killable. Its tough though, a single mob will easily take 1/4-1/3 of my voidwalker's health off, and uses up about half my mana killing it. Glad I reached 83 first, since I'm not sure the far lower health pools I had at 82 would've been safe, especially given some quests you can't avoid fighting 2 mobs at once, which is very tough to keep the vw alive through.
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Post by sharmarli on Apr 27, 2012 14:19:13 GMT -5
I'm now in Hyjal and very relieved to discover that mobs are killable. Its tough though, a single mob will easily take 1/4-1/3 of my voidwalker's health off, and uses up about half my mana killing it. Glad I reached 83 first, since I'm not sure the far lower health pools I had at 82 would've been safe, especially given some quests you can't avoid fighting 2 mobs at once, which is very tough to keep the vw alive through. I had gone up to Hyjal at 82 just to see what it was like, figured I could try to take down one of the elementals and if it went badly run back to the guards or banish. As it was I found that I was able to kill the mobs but at that level it took about 70% of my VW's health and almost a full mana bar to do it. I did complete the first 4 quests there however but had I double pulled anything I would have been dead more likely than not. Speaking of which I'm probably hitting 83 tonight and the one quest that I keep thinking of in Hyjal as being a major sticking point is In the Rear with the Gear: www.wowhead.com/quest=25234. It's a required double pull with more mobs continuously walking up the same path, with hunter mobs scattered around the area to the outside. If anyone has thoughts on strategy I'd be interested to hear them. Side note: I found out the other day that Banishing a mob that you're in combat with drops you out of combat. That must have something to do with the CC changes a couple of patches back. Interestingly you're pet will stay in combat but you don't and can mount and fly away. Anyway one thing I am looking a bit forward to with Cata is having all my defensive abilities back in play as opposed to Northrend where most of them don't work thanks to a good portion of the mobs being undead
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Post by iarnaig on Apr 27, 2012 14:34:50 GMT -5
Speaking of which I'm probably hitting 83 tonight and the one quest that I keep thinking of in Hyjal as being a major sticking point is In the Rear with the Gear: www.wowhead.com/quest=25234. It's a required double pull with more mobs continuously walking up the same path, with hunter mobs scattered around the area to the outside. If anyone has thoughts on strategy I'd be interested to hear them. I've just done that one a few minutes ago, I found there was a spot near the end of the path, between a junction in the road and just before the camp, where there's only one hunter mob and he tends to patrol some distance away. From there I could send my voidwalker at the mobs, nuke one down, then pull the voidwalker back to me with the other following before the next patrol arrived, heal up the voidwalker and kill the 2nd mob. Not elegant, but it worked! Really useful thing is, if your second mob is a slavedriver and another pptrol is passing by when your slavedriver dies, the new patrol's slaves drop their gear as well, so you can loot loads of it at one go! Still had to pull 4 pats for the ogres but at least I had less running onto the path to loot the gear; once I didn't need it any more I'd just drag both mobs off the path for safety.
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Post by sharmarli on Apr 27, 2012 14:44:40 GMT -5
Not elegant, but it worked! Not worried about elegant, just functional
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Post by notso on Apr 27, 2012 14:59:34 GMT -5
Re in the rear. for some of my other 85's, I did this near where they start. There was a large grassy area you can pull them to where its harder to get adds. I haven't gone to hyjal yet on notso, but there are a couple places I am worried about.
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Post by iarnaig on Apr 27, 2012 15:06:15 GMT -5
Be warned about named quest mobs, 60k, 75k health on the first two I met... 30k regular mobs put a big dent in my mana so 60k+ is seriously painful, I try to keep my doomguard in reserve for them but even so, the named ogre in the cave had me on 0 mana and 50% health by the end of the fight (health funnel dmg, didn't dare lifetap other than once after summing the doomguard). I think I'll be more wary of named mobs now, thank goodness I'm getting nearer to levelling and a health/mana boost.
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Post by Dranina on Apr 27, 2012 15:19:21 GMT -5
I know I'm nowhere near Cata zones as I'm only 17 now. But do you have to go to Hyjal? I'm asking since I never went there with my main (and only 85 - pathetic since I've been playing WoW since December 2006). I have only ever done 4 quest there with him. And those I did out of curiosity, naked, after having unlearnt my talents and bought the best vendor shield & sword I could find. He did not die I levelled him through only Vashj'ir, Deepholm, and Highlands. Would that be possible with an Ironman - Vashj'ir, as opposed to Hyjal?
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Post by iarnaig on Apr 27, 2012 15:43:01 GMT -5
It may be possible to skip Hyjal, but unless you got a heck of a lot of exp in Northrend, you'll hit Deepholm. I think Kripparian did some quests there, but I recall Ironfurbaer left after the first mob hit him for 10k or similar, which sounds a nasty risk. So I'd say both Vash'jir and Deepholm ideally.
Although given how very hard going the named mobs are so far, whether I can get through the linear questing without constantly being blocked is another matter! Really don't want to try Cindermaul, but I'll likely have to.
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Post by sharmarli on Apr 27, 2012 18:35:24 GMT -5
Be warned about named quest mobs, 60k, 75k health on the first two I met... 30k regular mobs put a big dent in my mana so 60k+ is seriously painful, I try to keep my doomguard in reserve for them but even so, the named ogre in the cave had me on 0 mana and 50% health by the end of the fight (health funnel dmg, didn't dare lifetap other than once after summing the doomguard). I think I'll be more wary of named mobs now, thank goodness I'm getting nearer to levelling and a health/mana boost. One thing I've done in the past is pull out the Doomguard/pop VW Shield before starting combat, lifetapping and soul harvest back to full while letting the VW consume shadows and then send in my VW. I lose some time off the Doomguard and VW shield that way, but I start out with Max possible DPS with everybody at full health/mana. I'm not sure if this is a good option or not but I'm just throwing that suggestion out there Also, I took a look at Kripp's Armory, it looked like he did almost all the quests in Deepholm, I think he was about 10-15 away from the achieve but I'm betting he didn't go there until 84 Having said the above two comments, I'm almost starting to wonder if Vash'jir might be better than Hyjal for locks thinking about Mobs.
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