Kyrie
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Post by Kyrie on May 23, 2012 11:46:44 GMT -5
So glad you made it out safely! Congrats on hitting lvl 73! I have decided no matter what I'm going to start playing my pally again. Internet/game issues abound, but I miss her and I miss the challenge. I will do all I can to ensure safety, but I just want to play. :-) DIII has sucked my guild dry at the moment on my main realm, so I am about the only one there. On Nazgrel, it's been awfully quiet. Also, I have been thinking about joining Wyrmrest Accord or another RP realm, but I am completely intimidated by it. I would love to start reading the lore and possibly participating in RP. Any recommendations of how to go about this for a new player? (Been playing WoW for less than a year. I DO think of my player as a person embarking on an incredible journey so I think I could get into the RP aspect of it quite easily...just don't think I know enough to be convincing to those knowledgeable about lore.)
Stay safe pallys!
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Post by katrii on May 23, 2012 14:06:19 GMT -5
I hear you, Kyrie. Even though I'm playing Kahtraa on WrA I don't really RP except to write her journal and that's not really interacting with other players. I would check out the realm forums for guides, etc. I believe the one for WrA has some stickied guides and I know that the forum for Sisters of Elune has guides (I'm doing an ironman on that realm as well but it's for gold). That may be a good place to start and they give tips for getting started with RP.
Good luck and I look forward to seeing you rise in the ranks once again!
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Post by Varanas on May 23, 2012 15:03:53 GMT -5
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Post by bromli on May 24, 2012 13:58:58 GMT -5
[quote author=ky board=class thread=321 post=2966 time=1336405801 I am currently testing when I need to Divine Plea to max mana but without wasting any...same w/heals...losing to overheals.)[/quote] if there's a fight where using plea, or using a second plea perhaps, is important, u would likely have used an exo or 2 up front, so u could plea during your first open global. that is, of course, unless u need to heal early, in which case u just wait to heal, then use plea during the next open global. plea is 12 seconds, cooldown on wog is 20 sec, shouldn't be too bad to fit plea within the window. the overal idea is like on-use mana regen trinkets for healers. use it as early as possible without wasting. i.e., cast a few times then do it overheals i wouldn't worry about too much. generally i just wait until a non-crit wog won't overheal, but what's important is that the worst-case scenario won't kill you due to letting yourself get too low. getting cc-ed isn't fun at low health.
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Post by Kyrie on May 27, 2012 7:10:26 GMT -5
Stay safe all! I will be off for the next couple of days with the family for Memorial Day weekend. I did do some work on my pally yesterday and am almost 66. I'll rededicate myself to it when I return.
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Kyrie
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Post by Kyrie on Jun 1, 2012 0:18:42 GMT -5
I am back, and I made it to 66. Woot! Thanks, Varanas and Katrii, for the input on RP. I did read the articles, and I am thinking about what I may want to do in the future. I may start with journals and branch out a bit later. Bromli -- thanks for your comments. Yeah, I ended up doing a rotation similar to what you described through trial and error. I had some moments (and still do) where I am constantly trying to manage my mana. Spamming buttons will not get you far here so I was trying to maximize my mana at all times (with as little waste as possible) in case of the "oh no" moments...fast respawns, extra adds, etc. I became aware of the waste when I separated my combat log from chat log and kept an eye on it. I realized sometimes I panicked by hitting WoG too early and would overheal myself by hundreds....also realizing it would have been used more effectively had I waited til I was closer to 60-65%-ish to get a full heal with less of a waste. In regards to DP, most times I use it after Exorcism....and sometimes after Exorcism, CS and Judgement. If it's a long fight, I pull it early so I have it on CD by the end...or after that add is down and I know another one is coming. Thanks for all of the support all! Keep going. Safe travels.
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Post by bromli on Jun 9, 2012 0:09:44 GMT -5
hey all, a few things: first, i recant on the might vs. kings debate (well, sort of lol). kings gets resistances, making it much better for magic damage fights and probably better as a leave-it-on-all-the-time blessing. i did append a previous post, but figured i'd mention it. might would still be superior any time there isn't a decent amount of magic damage. second, i'm done with ironman. no time for it, really, and i really want this paladin to be 85 lol. mop will change everything, possibly making it impossible anyway. i am going to keep following the rules as i level, though, and likely will be back here with more random thoughts. for example, in a long fight (as they all will be by the end). is it even worth it to exo burst? i don't know how spells will scale, but at mid-levels holy wrath is a better place to dump mana, as long as the fight is long enough to oom yourself using HW as your dump. for that matter, is judgment even worth it? it doesn't proc seal of insight; it might be a waste. anyways, good luck to all
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Post by Kyrie on Jul 20, 2012 17:39:08 GMT -5
Sorry to hear it bromli, but I completely understand. No matter what comes of MoP I think I'm going to press forward. You just never know. ;-) Any thoughts as you level yours following the rules would be most welcome! I have taken a rather long break from my pally, but I do plan to return to her. I lost the drive/excitement and real life has come in and taken a huge portion of my time and energy. I plan to return to her in bits. In a few weeks, I should be back on her and moving onward and upward. During my break, I did make a NE rogue on WrA. I am going to play on her and a baby lock or pally until I can resume my journey on Ironkyrie. Best wishes, bromli. Keep in touch.
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Post by katrii on Aug 30, 2012 13:22:48 GMT -5
Well, I've finished up as much I ever do in Zangarmarsh and I've done the last 10 or so quests after the patch had hit. Here is my findings so far (Kahlee is currently Level 67):
The rotation is mind numbing - judgment and crusader strike with hammer of wrath to finish them off. At this level I do have rebuke (interrupt) and, of course, hammer of justice (stuns).
I now only have Blessing of Kings for a buff - don't get Blessing of Might until Level 81 (but it has changed and no longer ups attack power and return mana but gives an increase to mastery).
I have Seal of Truth (12% holy damage and causes censure stacks 5x (censure causes an additional 270 damage over 16.36 seconds)), Seal of Righteousness (causes 6% weapon damage to all targets w/in 8 yds) and Seal of Insight (increase casting speed by 10%, improve healing by 5% and a chance of melee attacks to heal you by 76 and return 4% mana).
So basically, I have been using Seal of Insight as I need the mana return since my mana is capped at 1400 at this level and I go through it quick. I, of course, am using Blessing of Kings since it's the only buff I have.
I am having to drink after every fight - there have been a few exceptions when I've managed to get the mob down pretty quick and still have over half my mana pool and can go to the next mob without having to drink. I'm not having too much problem with my health. Granted, The mobs I have been facing have been anywhere from 3 - 5 levels below me.
We do still have Word of Glory which I have used after each fight and only once during a fight. I am having to be more careful about pulls and more aware of my surroundings as multiples attacking me would probably mean death.
I see these changes as making the challenge more difficult but not impossible at this time.
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Post by Dranina on Aug 31, 2012 4:23:34 GMT -5
Well, I've finished up as much I ever do in Zangarmarsh and I've done the last 10 or so quests after the patch had hit. Here is my findings so far (Kahlee is currently Level 67): The rotation is mind numbing - judgment and crusader strike with hammer of wrath to finish them off. At this level I do have rebuke (interrupt) and, of course, hammer of justice (stuns). I now only have Blessing of Kings for a buff - don't get Blessing of Might until Level 81 (but it has changed and no longer ups attack power and return mana but gives an increase to mastery). I have Seal of Truth (12% holy damage and causes censure stacks 5x (censure causes an additional 270 damage over 16.36 seconds)), Seal of Righteousness (causes 6% weapon damage to all targets w/in 8 yds) and Seal of Insight (increase casting speed by 10%, improve healing by 5% and a chance of melee attacks to heal you by 76 and return 4% mana). So basically, I have been using Seal of Insight as I need the mana return since my mana is capped at 1400 at this level and I go through it quick. I, of course, am using Blessing of Kings since it's the only buff I have. I am having to drink after every fight - there have been a few exceptions when I've managed to get the mob down pretty quick and still have over half my mana pool and can go to the next mob without having to drink. I'm not having too much problem with my health. Granted, The mobs I have been facing have been anywhere from 3 - 5 levels below me. We do still have Word of Glory which I have used after each fight and only once during a fight. I am having to be more careful about pulls and more aware of my surroundings as multiples attacking me would probably mean death. I see these changes as making the challenge more difficult but not impossible at this time. Dear Katrii, I do agrre and disagree wíth you. It is totally boring to level a paladin now as Iron. You have basically the same 2 spells from level 5 through 85. It is no longer a question of learning your class and its spells. As you say: Crusader's Strike and Judgement till they die with Hammer of Wrath as finishing touch after level 38. It is now a question of only taking on one mob at a time, no more elites, no more "Ouch I barely made it"-moments, as those will bring death from lack of mana. It will mean a mind-numbing grind of green quests to make it to level 85, living in the fear of a respawn or a patrol. I'm going to revive one of my dead pallys and give her specialisation, but not talents, and see how that is. I feel no likeing to change just for the sake of changing, but Blizz put all what made a Paladin a true fighter for the Light in the specializations. I no longer feel like in vanilla, but just bored. *Sigh*
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Kyrie
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Post by Kyrie on Oct 25, 2012 0:28:17 GMT -5
Dranina, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually decided to continue on my pally. Like you, I have another toon I'm playing some as well. I've been working on a shammy but thinking of a monk. We will see. I agree with you...it is a lot more boring that it was before. The spells seem to hit a bit harder which can be helpful but wow...without Exorcism it takes a noticeably longer time to kill mobs. I'm in Naga-land in Zanga right now, and I have to be REALLY cautious not to get more than 1....and definitely not more than 2 (have handled 2 without TOO much of a prob...but mana drains fast for me right now...and not even using any for healing). I think it'll take me longer than it did before to complete each quest, but I think it's possible. I'm going to push on. Am 10% away from 68....and am trying to wait until then or 69 to move into Nagrand. I still don't know the quests as well as I should, but I'll do my best and go from there. Good luck all! (Also I'm really disappointed in the upcoming spells we have left to learn from 67 to 90....but oh well...it's definitely a challenge.)
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Post by Kyrie on Oct 25, 2012 0:47:13 GMT -5
One thing to add that helped is managing my mana: Say I attacked an add. I realized I needed to keep my mana at approx 65-75% (if not higher) so that IF/(when) another add joined the fight I'd have enough mana to finish both of them off. What this means is instead of hitting CS or Judgement as soon as they're up, I would pause in between hits and just melee for a bit. I found this to be the most efficient and "safest" way to complete quests. (This is why it takes so much longer to kill mobs than it did before, BUT it saved my butt once.) Seal of Insight seems to be doing a decent job healing herself...which has been nice. I've only needed WoG a few times and my Draenei racial heal once or twice. FoL is very expensive mana-wise so I'm hoping to avoid it altogether.
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Post by Dranina on Oct 25, 2012 2:10:56 GMT -5
Kyrie, that actually sounds like a brain wave. Did you eat G.N.E.R.D.S galore while trick or treating? I think that is definitely what I'll be doing as well, as I also can not keep my hands off my Pally. She is now lvl 35, but only from dailies and candy buckets. I have rolled a Draenei hunter as well, but as I said elsewhere it feels so easy that I decided to up the challenge a notch and level only dressed in Festive dress (bought on AH for an atrocious sum), Bloodelf Bandit mask, and a pair of sturdy boots. I want a red bow as well, and one of the red/yellow legged spiders from Bloodmyst Isles as a pet when I get there. To look nice will be great for a change I think I'll have a hard time returning to questing when Hallow's end is over. Edited to correct spelling
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Post by Crusader JCarrillo@Terenas on Nov 6, 2012 14:41:06 GMT -5
I must not of read this far into the post to see these. I made a Post about playing MoP Iron Paladins, I see your point on Its being harder, but I like good challenge. We are still not allowed to spec though right?
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Post by Dranina on Nov 6, 2012 15:30:50 GMT -5
Nope, we're not allowed to spec.
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