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Post by tanee on Jan 8, 2014 1:45:27 GMT -5
I tried to do Deathspeaker Kharos boss of the argent dailies on my deadiron who is 82. No go. Boss spawns too many shades that continuously spawn until the boss is dead. It maybe be possible at 85, the shades can be killed with just one auto attack. But if they're not killed, they do way too much damage. Killed my dead pally twice before I decided I wasn't bringing pally to that boss.
The elite quest that had me worried, "Valduran the Stormborn" was a no worry. The boss had 100k hp, but the npc's that r summoned kill him. I did take some damage, but not much, and I was able to heal through it.
I have decided to pass on "The Iron Colossus". It's a mechanical quest where u control a Jormungar to kill an elite. I don't think I've ever done that quest before & decided best not to learn on pally.
Storm Peaks is done unless I decide to go do drake to drake. Probably wont, but it's always in the back of my mind to do. I hate losing so much of that quest line. But, it's killed 2 imc's already.
Ice Crown is next. There's a big problem with Ice Crown atm. While questing, I continuously heard people crying about the webbed crusaders being the worst quest ever & some complaining they've been working on it 2 days & it's still not complete. It appears they r not spawning as they should. Which could be a big problem for me considering how many bug pats there are. That also leads to the canon quest that killed an ironman of mine. Suppose to shoot big elite out of the sky, only he wasn't taking any damage. Once he destroys my canon, I'm suppose to just hop on the next canon. Only, it threw me into all the mobs instead. I should have known something was up when the elite wasn't taking damage. My hunter that got to 90 elected not to do that quest. The problem is by not doing it, I'm estimating that 1/2 of Ice Crown is not available. I have since tried it on another toon to see if I can switch canons before the one I'm on is blown up, and yes, I could. I plan on doing it a few times on dead pally just to make sure no glitches await me. Even abandoning the quest & starting over to make sure I can do it on pally without harm. If this quest hub is still glitching with the web guys not spawning, I can start in the middle of Ice Crown with that big eye in the sky that is the start quest of Shadow Vault.
I did get a new piece of gear. I was able to replace the level 70 belt I had. woot! I still have 2 pieces of mail & 2 pieces of level 71 gear to replace.
Off to Ice Crown on dead pally, yuck.
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Post by tanee on Jan 8, 2014 18:38:43 GMT -5
Not only do the webbed guys not spawan very frequently, they r usually empty. So I headed off to Shadow Vaults. Now I realize I have very little experience in Ice Crown. In Storm Peaks I was able to iron my dead pally only on quests I was unsure of. Now she is forced to go before the storm, making leveling a lot slower as I'm basically leveling 2 irons albeit one has died (multiple times now).
Was good that dead went first. One of the mobs I had to kill turns out to have a knock back & pushed me off a cliff. Then he came after me & brought a friend. I quickly switched to a regular weapon, and still had to use lay on hands to survive. I was hoping to ding 85, but have to work on dead first so I know what to expect.
If the web guys don't un-bug, I lose 1/2 of Ice Crown. Unless I want to spend days hanging out, waiting for one to spawn & hoping I beat out the other 3-5 guys going after it too.
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Post by tanee on Jan 14, 2014 21:59:54 GMT -5
Still moving forward albeit at a snails pace. Recently, computer turned itself off twice. Lucky for me I wasn't on imc. But now my inevitable doom plays even more heavily on me. Computer issues, glitches, and now the possibility of no base hp makes me weary. I thought about taking it ez for a bit, perhaps giving pally a rest she desperately needs. But with the xpac now looming and the snails pace of a pally, I must press on.
Turning 85 helped considerably. I can now blow through my mana to down a mob so long as I'm not at risk for a pat. Converted heroes still scary cuz of all the pats and people cloth farming.
I reported the problem with the webbed guys not spawning, so I will soon go back and see if I can make a name for myself at Argent Vanguard.
I try to do my dailies, grind a few mobs, and when possible, continue my adventures in Ice Crown. To adventure in Ice Crown, I'm forced to level dead pally as iron, so the time involved is double.
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Post by tanee on Jan 22, 2014 0:41:16 GMT -5
The webbed guys at Argent Vanguard was fixed, although for only a few days, and I was able to continue questing in Ice Crown. Boy, some of these mobs hit really hard and swarming with mobs and pats. Starting to get a headache every time I play.
Ymirheim was particularly troublesome. The warriors heal for almost more than my damage. I had burned through my mana as usually when I finally realized the warrior was almost at full health. I stuck with the hunters with the bird pets and the caster ladies, shamans I think, although I did prefer the shamans. I mostly found them inside the little buildings, as well as a chest. It was the first chest I ever looted in Ice crown. Had a very scary moment though. While I was killing one inside the building, 2 red bars showed up behind me, so I hugged the back of the wall and turned around. OMG!!! 2 pvp npc's. Had I survived, not likely, the mob and the 2 pvp adds, I would have been a sitting duck as blizz spouted across chat, "Ymirhim under attack".
I wasn't able to do the escort quest in the same area, at least my dead pally 2 levels lower couldn't do it. It is also noteworthy that while I was killing the 20 mobs for the quest/daily at Ymirhim, I attacked one of those mobs on the path that the escort takes. Whoa!!! 3 adds spawned. These mobs hit pretty hard & are difficult to kill, so I won't be doing that daily.
Skybreaker quests can be intimidating, well, shoot, most of Ice Crown is. Passed on all the pvp quests
Woot, dinged 86 and got an upgraded chest, a level 71 to a level 77. Sure wish I could get rid of my mail shoulders and bracers. Plate drops seems to be very rare compared to mail. I bet ghost crawler was a hunter.
It has already been determined that a pally can't go to cata til at least 87 and perhaps even higher. I do have more quests in Ice Crown, but after that it's dailies and grinding to 88 or 89. Maybe I'll take Ironicow's route and do the grind.
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Post by tanee on Jan 25, 2014 6:25:49 GMT -5
Had big scare today. Wow crashed while I was in battle. The wow gods smiled upon me, and I survived.
Woot, was finally able to get rid of my mail shoulders which gave me about 288 increased armor. One more mail and two more low level plate to replace.
I have decided to take ironcow's lead and grind. I have a goal to kill 360 mobs a day. At level 86, 366 mobs give me a bar of xp. This assumes rest xp and wintergrasp. When I first begin my journey for the day, I buy 360 water. After doing dailies and quests, whatever water I have left I use to grind. I do end up with a few extra kills when, yikes, I forget to drink.
Grinding is absent of stress with little to no risk, and it is the most boring thing ever. It makes me sleepy and antsy. I kill about 100 mobs an hour, so this is 3 hours worth of work.
I have started sneaking over to Uldum to do the one daily there. I really could have started it at 83, but I forgot about it.
Debating stopping doing dailies in Sholazar. I have already stop the on as the xp isn't worth the time investment. This leaves me 2 there, one giving me about 10k xp and the other giving me 17k xp. 17k is what I know get in Ice Crown.
I have to say the dailies I do have way more risk involved than grinding. Grinding, I find a nice, safe spot, pull the mob to a spot to prevent the possibility of adds, and then kill a mob that I am capable of auto attacking to his demise, hence why I didn't die when wow crashed. On the other hand, had I been killing converted heroes for the argent daily, I would have likely died. Past irons have died flying over wintergrasp omw (the reason I now use the fp if at all possible) to a daily, getting too close to horde camp leaving the flower daily, and being stupid enough to try to get the elder for Lunar Festival at Razor Hill (the rez angel put me right back in agro range of the level 90 guard who then proceeded to kill me again). So I have learned that if my iron is outside any town, she is at risk for death. And even being in town is not safe should Death Wing decide to come create havoc with his fiery breath to burn the land once again.
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Post by tanee on Jan 29, 2014 5:37:47 GMT -5
Dinged 87, woot. After I was done for the day, I had one more bar to go to ding, so I couldn't resist grinding the 366 mobs I needed to ding. After I was done, I remembered the Uldum daily was not done. Oh well, xp for 87. I've been grinding on the cultists near argent. They have about 10k hp. When I got to Uldum, I checked the hp of the mobs and was floored by their 57k hp. Unless they hit like a wet noodle, I can't imagine pally ever being able to kill them. ATM auto attack crusader strike and judgment hit for about 900 each, and I would have to save crusader strike for heal and not use judgment which costs less mana. Currently on level 80 mobs I get in 3 crusader strikes and 4 judgments. That would be an exceedingly long fight. Not sure I will have enough mana to keep up with heals. Maybe I should grind/daily to 89??? Maybe I should give it up and let Pally retire at an honorable 87??? It's not in me to quit, but I don't know if it's in me to grind the volumn of mobs necessary to even get to 89. It took 366 mobs per bar at 86. I haven't calculated the number at 87.
I really didn't expect to get this far. I actually expected HFP would be my demise.
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Post by tanee on Jan 29, 2014 10:48:19 GMT -5
Sad, sad, sad. Dailies are only giving me 13k xp now. Not hardly worth it considering I now need 12,650,000 xp to level. Only reason to continue, at least through 87 is to do them I kill about 60 mobs, so it's part of the grind. Did I mention I hate grinding? And the cultist are now only giving 1210 xp with rest & wintergrasp instead of the 1350 they gave me at 86. It now will take 522 mobs kills per bar. Not sure what to do.
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Post by tanee on Feb 6, 2014 17:29:20 GMT -5
I'm almost 88, only 3 bars to go, and my mind is racing with ideas for my next course of action. I finished leveling my dead pally to 88, and now she sits until I need her again. I plan on taking her to Hyjal and Vashjir to test the waters and see how much xp I get for those quests. I'm hoping they'll be more than I get from dailies in Ice Crown. If I've outgrown Ice Crown at 88, it's quite possible I'd have outgrown those zones as well. The naga at the start of Vashjir is very worrisome. I'm hoping to be able to open Deepholm dailies, but at this point I can't imagine that being possible. Dead pally will have her work cut out for her, and I dread leveling her iron.
In the course of leveling dead pally through Krasarang, I accidentally vendored her iron gear, and I was only able to buy some of it back. But I did get a few mop drops. Oh, wow, the upgrade in armor value is considerable. To compensate for missing gear, I'll equip mop gear but just make sure the total armor value is roughly equal.
Life in imc is boring atm. It's all I can do to force myself to continue on. The only thing I do that continues to be a challenge and increase my heart rate is the 10 converted heroes I kill each day. They hit a lot harder than the cultists but nothing I can't handle. The only reason they're intimidating is one false move and I will find myself in a pack of them as they respawn.
I had a epiphany today. I suddenly realized the mobs I am killing are doing little to no damage to me, yet I had been using seal of insight for heals. Had I been using seal of truth, I would have cut my grinding time by a significant amount. I can now kill almost 2 mobs before going oom. I still mana up between kills otherwise I would have to wait for regen for my last smack to them. I had been killing 100/hour which I expect to increase to at least 120/hour if not more.
I worked on my 65 imc druid this morning. Wow, what a difference. She has almost unlimited heals although she does seem to take more damage than pally. And at 65, she hits harder than 87 pally. Her crits for her finishing move is about 5k whereas pally crits for about 2k. I really love working on druid, but most probably I won't do too much unless I get bored to tears on pally. The more I work on druid, the longer it will take pally to die or hit 90.
On a happy note, I got a new piece of gear. Now only need to replace the mail bracers.
Total kills 20,236
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Post by alonaa on Feb 7, 2014 18:53:35 GMT -5
Great stuff ! Life in IMC may be boring for you just now but let me assure you I'm sitting on the edge of my seat biting my fingernails cheering you on Anyways, who cares about your Druid, I'm cheering for the dead pally
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Post by tanee on Feb 7, 2014 19:18:16 GMT -5
Oh happy days, I dinged 88, woot!
I headed over to Sholazar to find out the amount of xp that dailies would now be giving. Sad to say 8.8k So pretty much the only dailies that would be worth doing is the one that has me killing the cultists, assuming they are still worth the grind.
I have somewhat of an idea what to do/try next, but I still need to do a little research and bring out dead pally to test.
Total kills: 21,769--I've been busy.
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Post by tanee on Feb 8, 2014 4:15:43 GMT -5
Cry, cry, cry. The mobs in Hyjal are only giving 230 xp and that includes rest. And it takes forever to kill a mob. The cultists now give me only 1090 xp but still considerably more than Hyjal. And it now would take 700 of them to give me one bar. On a happy note, although the mobs hit harder than the cultists, I'm still able to use seal of truth. But sad to say my word of glory isn't healing me for as much as it did in wotlk. Decisions, decisions. I have only a vague idea of what I need to do to get to 89. I could try out deepholm to see how pally does, but that could make 89-90 harder. Unless I'm able to open the dailies there to make up for questing out the zone before closer to 89. Sigh
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Post by tanee on Feb 9, 2014 16:53:32 GMT -5
I have hit a quandary. Questing in Hyjal is slow and the xp/kill is low. I seems that it would take less time if I continue grinding in Ice Crown. Let's see. 15,250,000 xp divided by 1090 per kill = 13,990 mobs to kill. This doesn't take into account the 3 dailies that give max xp nor the few Argent dailies I could still do. The down side is that by grinding, I wouldn't get new gear, and that would make the next zone more hazardous. I hate grinding, but I've learned that time goes a lot faster if I turn on a movie. Questing is certainly more exciting. Each quest has to be researched, pondered, and scouted out less I find myself in a pickle. I hop back and forth between imc pally and dead pally, switching dead pally's spec back & forth from iron spec/gear to ret spec/gear. I think the next 2 levels are going to take a long time.
Hyjal so far is generous on gear. I got a new 1h, 2h and pants. Still have those darn mail bracers.
Mobs have 30k hp. I blow all my mana building 6 holy power and the rest on judging. This gets the mobs down to about 15k hp. Then I auto attack them until dead, using word of glory if/when necessary. Boss mobs have 60k xp, yuck. At least I can (eventually) kill them.
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Post by tanee on Feb 10, 2014 4:54:24 GMT -5
I've been including grinding in my daily activities. Today I killed over 500 mobs. With such piddle xp from Hyjal mobs and quests and the length of time they take, I wanted to make sure I got in a decent amount of xp from sources other than the 3 max xp dailies.
Interestingly every quest I've first tried on my dead pally proved to be no problem with the exception of the one boss mob from Argent dailies. Dead pally was 2 levels lower than iron pally, but I still elected never to do it. So mostly dead pally is a security blanket. Testing the quest out on her first does usually show me a better way of doing it than I may have done on iron pally.
Killing those harpies too close to the inn had it's problems. An npc guard couldn't resist helping me. One kill I got 1/2 the xp and the other kill I got none.
Sethrias Roost--wow, mobs are 81 with 37k hp. The Twilight Juggernaut, and I need to kill 3 of them, has 37k hp too but took longer to kill than the boss mobs with 74k hp. So long that naaru was off its 3min cd, and I could have used it again. I think I found a safe place for the egg that has only one mob & no pats. Only thing that concerns me is dead pally got the egg the first attempt, then gamed screamed to defend the egg, but nothing spawned. There was nothing to defend. Hope iron pally has the same luck. I also found A twilight Juggernaut that has only one mob, again with no pats. I'll probably wait for spawns on these.
Hyjal quests: 75/115 Kills: 22,508
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Post by tanee on Feb 11, 2014 22:16:55 GMT -5
Almost had a stupid, stupid, heart stopping death on a quest that's darn near impossible to die on. Shook me up so much I had to take a break. It's the quest "Mental Training: Speaking the Truth to Power". IDK, my brain wondered away when I started it I guess. Next thing I know I'm being zapped with a significant decrease in hp. That woke me up, but not soon enough to read the next question & give a correct answer. Zap. Now in a mental frazzle, I answered incorrectly. Zap. Looked down to dismount, oh crap, no dismount button. Zap. Decided to run to reset, only I have no mob to reset. Zap. I must have hit a correct answer in my moment of panic with low hp warning flashin cuz the next thing I know I'm dismounted & at full hp. I didn't know it in my moment of panic, but every correct answer restores you to full hp.
Doing about 3 argent dailies, 4 bracelet dailies, 1 perfume daily, and 3 max xp dailies, in addition to farming argent mobs until I get 40 charms. These give me 2 bars of xp. Dang, wish this event happened when I was 89 cuz 88 is going to be a breeze.
Almost done with Hyjal. Vashjir scares me to death. The naga, omg, the naga.
Hyjal quests: 115/115 Kills: 23,254
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Post by tanee on Feb 16, 2014 16:23:52 GMT -5
Good new is I hit 89 and just before I did, my plate bracers also dropped from the cultists. Feels good to finally be dressed all in plate. For the first time, I also was able to do the holiday daily in Uldum. First I went to duskwood to get the wagon.
Bad news is I cannot open uldum. I can't kill the boss mob to get the key. I tried it on dead pally. She would have died had someone not came in & killed him. I can kill Uldum mobs, but barely. I hearthed out without turning in the quests, and as I suspected, the portal remains closed. Cultists are now gray, so no more grinding them. I have enough charms for one more day of faction bosses. It seems that Vashjir quests are still green although the amount of xp they now give is paltry. So unless the mobs in Mop hit a lot less than the boss in Uldum, getting to 90 by grinding isn't possible. Sad, sad, day.
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