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Post by mrmacman65 on Jun 4, 2023 15:08:51 GMT -5
How will they compare to the original challenge?
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Post by Xaya on Jun 5, 2023 5:01:57 GMT -5
Hard to say...
it seems it'll be a bit like hardcore mode in Diablo : you die, game over. No other 'ironman' rules, so still need API/addon if one want to add something else.
To be honest, I'm not sure if they'll be a lot of ppl, chances of death are pretty high in classic. AH sure will have a different look for prices and items...
Iron champions : MoP, WoD, BfA, SL (12), DF (3) Green champion : BfA, SL, DF Bloodthirsty champion : SL (2) Workingman champion : BfA, SL, DF Pacifist champion : BfA, SL (2), DF (2) Tinman champion : BfA, SL
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Post by brittleiron on Jun 28, 2023 15:08:06 GMT -5
Honestly I'm disappointed in Blizzard for creating Classic Hardcore servers after only a few years of that community when they couldn't ever make any sort of serious commitment to the Ironman challenge community in over a decade.
I've watched a lot of Hardcore streams and it just doesn't feel like much of challenge when you can use actual gear so long as you don't play like a reckless fool (which most of the HC crowd seems to). A real challenge is playing classic Ironman sadly I'm assuming the API still can't be tracked for that.
Seeing comments on HC forums/posts that say things like this "HC mode is probably one of the best things/ways to play the game that has been introduced in the game in awhile" makes me laugh because Ironman has been a thing for years but people act like the idea is new now with Hardcore.
Playing Hardcore as a former Ironman player feels too easy, especially being a old timer that played Ironman prior to level scaling when you could actually out level quests and grind light green mobs like you can in Classic.
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Post by Dranina on Jun 30, 2023 15:48:56 GMT -5
Honestly I'm disappointed in Blizzard for creating Classic Hardcore servers after only a few years of that community when they couldn't ever make any sort of serious commitment to the Ironman challenge community in over a decade. I've watched a lot of Hardcore streams and it just doesn't feel like much of challenge when you can use actual gear so long as you don't play like a reckless fool (which most of the HC crowd seems to). A real challenge is playing classic Ironman sadly I'm assuming the API still can't be tracked for that. Seeing comments on HC forums/posts that say things like this "HC mode is probably one of the best things/ways to play the game that has been introduced in the game in awhile" makes me laugh because Ironman has been a thing for years but people act like the idea is new now with Hardcore. Playing Hardcore as a former Ironman player feels too easy, especially being a old timer that played Ironman prior to level scaling when you could actually out level quests and grind light green mobs like you can in Classic. You totally mirror my feelings. Why could we never have just an achievment? The only positive is that one GM actually validated an IronManChallenger back in Classic. And seeing the outrage and uproar because AH and mailboxes and trade are accesible on HC realms makes me laugh. When you can run dungeons for gear and create gear via professions, I do not see the big danger in using AH. The only "danger" I see here is people sending startup money to their new alts. I feel a bit like saying "There's no honour among thieves".
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Post by Dranina on Aug 4, 2023 1:31:12 GMT -5
Hard to say... it seems it'll be a bit like hardcore mode in Diablo : you die, game over. No other 'ironman' rules, so still need API/addon if one want to add something else. To be honest, I'm not sure if they'll be a lot of ppl, chances of death are pretty high in classic. AH sure will have a different look for prices and items...
Iron champions : MoP, WoD, BfA, SL (12), DF (3) Green champion : BfA, SL, DF Bloodthirsty champion : SL (2) Workingman champion : BfA, SL, DF Pacifist champion : BfA, SL (2), DF (2) Tinman champion : BfA, SL
Is this what you would like? eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/new-apis-now-available-for-testing/461426
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Post by Xaya on Aug 4, 2023 6:03:23 GMT -5
[/quote]Is this what you would like? eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/new-apis-now-available-for-testing/461426[/quote]definitely. Might take some time for us code everything though
Iron champions : MoP, WoD, BfA, SL (12), DF (7) Green champion : BfA, SL, DF Bloodthirsty champion : SL (2) Workingman champion : BfA, SL, DF Pacifist champion : BfA, SL (2), DF (2) Tinman champion : BfA, SL
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Post by Dranina on Aug 4, 2023 10:33:42 GMT -5
Yay! I will wait patiently - as I also suppose that the HC servers will be way overcrowded at launch Thanks for answering!
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Post by mosotti on Aug 6, 2023 9:13:09 GMT -5
I played on PTR and it's really hard, even without the Ironman rules. Sure I got to level 30 without dying (unfortunately it's capped), but I pretty much know everything that should or should not be done and when. Even so I had some closed calls because there are major issues with mobs respawning. From level 7 until I got the pet at level 10 I couldn't do any quests, because mobs were respawning in maximum 30 seconds, but a lot of the times just instantly. Later levels are less stupid, but if there's some mage doing his things expect 5 mobs respawning on top of you... Also I didn't do any dungeons. I think Ironman in classic would be pretty boring because without talents you can just farm green mobs into oblivion... Hardcore is something else and it's supposed to mean no death but play the game normally, like doing dungeons and raids. I think from that point of view is much much harder than Ironman ever was. It's also not for me, I like to play alone and if I die to die from my mistakes The "Hardcore community" as I saw it in recent dramas seems to be a silly joke with their appeal system. Death is death, I'm glad there won't be any way to revive on the HC servers.
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Post by Xezzy on Aug 15, 2023 0:23:49 GMT -5
Yay!! I've had my Classic Ironman parked in wowironman on BB for years now waiting to goooo. Hopefully this gets implemented.
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Post by rastafaria on Aug 25, 2023 11:04:31 GMT -5
Honestly I'm disappointed in Blizzard for creating Classic Hardcore servers after only a few years of that community when they couldn't ever make any sort of serious commitment to the Ironman challenge community in over a decade. I've watched a lot of Hardcore streams and it just doesn't feel like much of challenge when you can use actual gear so long as you don't play like a reckless fool (which most of the HC crowd seems to). A real challenge is playing classic Ironman sadly I'm assuming the API still can't be tracked for that. Seeing comments on HC forums/posts that say things like this "HC mode is probably one of the best things/ways to play the game that has been introduced in the game in awhile" makes me laugh because Ironman has been a thing for years but people act like the idea is new now with Hardcore. Playing Hardcore as a former Ironman player feels too easy, especially being a old timer that played Ironman prior to level scaling when you could actually out level quests and grind light green mobs like you can in Classic. my thoughts exactly, I played the challenge for a whole lot of years starting in cata..........it was fun and challenging but everytime I turned around they were making it harder and harder to do before level 60, I finally gave it up with shadowlands, just didnt seem fun anymore. to all of you still toughing it out I salute you! maybe one day I"ll get back into it but that is highly unlikely.
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Post by Dranina on Oct 24, 2023 3:22:25 GMT -5
Yay! I will wait patiently - as I also suppose that the HC servers will be way overcrowded at launch Thanks for answering! Any news about a Classic leaderboard?
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Post by Xaya on Oct 24, 2023 6:24:56 GMT -5
Any news about a Classic leaderboard? We haven't really looked at classic API yet (don't even know when it'll be available outside PTR)
Iron champions : MoP, WoD, BfA, SL (12), DF (10) Green champion : BfA, SL, DF Bloodthirsty champion : SL (2), DF Workingman champion : BfA, SL, DF Pacifist champion : BfA, SL (2), DF (2) Tinman champion : BfA, SL
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Post by Dranina on Oct 25, 2023 9:03:55 GMT -5
OK,thanks. I only hope that it will come, some time. Good luck.
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