Dranina
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Post by Dranina on Aug 16, 2023 10:11:18 GMT -5
I have not been playing Retail for a long, long time. Since around the end of 2018 actually. I never bought the expansions Shadowland and now Dragonflight. I have been playing (IronMan too), but only Classic. Today out of curiosity I went and looked for my old characters in the tracker - fully expecting not to find any of them after so long. To by surprise I found two of them, and to my even bigger surprise I found that one of them was red-flagged. The mouse-over says three uncommon slots equipped. The character in question is: Danni, Draenei Hunter @ Steamwheedle Cartel EU, now level 17 (level 38 when I left her). I went to the Armory and looked, she has no green items or anything untoward equipped. Likewise my Pacifist Rustypal of Earthen Ring EU is there, now level 15 (for me still 33), but given one killing blow and two kills. The rest of the bunch were not very high level, in their 20'es, and must have sunk below minimum level requirement to show up. Also none of the dead ones exist any longer. I guess the Twisting Nether claimed them after so long. With Armory being as lousy for looking up anything but PvP and instances, I cannot see what happened? Can anyone make me wiser, please?
Also, can you no longer sort after realms in the tracker?
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Post by Xaya on Aug 17, 2023 5:31:37 GMT -5
we use Blizzard's statistics for items equipped and kills/killing blows. It shows that Danni equipped 3 greens items at some point (you can also go check those stats in game). We have no idea how/when that happened, but we take Blizzard's word for it.
As for deleted toons, Blizzard ask for any website to destroy information about toons that have not been loggged in 1 month after they remove them from armory (to comply with California privacy laws). If those toons sill exist, you can add them again after logging in (and out), if still not flagged. It might not work for workingman or greenman if they are above 20 though
I didn't know sorting by realms was even possible at some point, but if so looks like it has been removed long ago.
Iron champions : MoP, WoD, BfA, SL (12), DF (7) Green champion : BfA, SL, DF Bloodthirsty champion : SL (2), DF Workingman champion : BfA, SL, DF Pacifist champion : BfA, SL (2), DF (2) Tinman champion : BfA, SL
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Dranina
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Post by Dranina on Aug 17, 2023 10:04:59 GMT -5
we use Blizzard's statistics for items equipped and kills/killing blows. It shows that Danni equipped 3 greens items at some point (you can also go check those stats in game). We have no idea how/when that happened, but we take Blizzard's word for it. As for deleted toons, Blizzard ask for any website to destroy information about toons that have not been loggged in 1 month after they remove them from armory (to comply with California privacy laws). If those toons sill exist, you can add them again after logging in (and out), if still not flagged. It might not work for workingman or greenman if they are above 20 though I didn't know sorting by realms was even possible at some point, but if so looks like it has been removed long ago.
Iron champions : MoP, WoD, BfA, SL (12), DF (7) Green champion : BfA, SL, DF Bloodthirsty champion : SL (2), DF Workingman champion : BfA, SL, DF Pacifist champion : BfA, SL (2), DF (2) Tinman champion : BfA, SL
Thank you ... Of course Blizz is always right I just wonder how, when I did not play - as I haven't even installed Retail And I suspect that if some of her equipped items had turned green, they still would be? I know I can re-add - once I have found a way of logging in on my old account. What about the dead ones? Do they stay? I looked at the Pacifists - very short list, so I suppose not. That makes me sad. On the old tracker you could sort by realms, as by class, race and level. I think this was also possible in the new trackers in the beginning - at least they did not look like they do now As said, I am returning to these forums after a really long break we speak years here.
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Dranina
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Post by Dranina on Aug 17, 2023 11:16:09 GMT -5
And YUCK - I just snatched my chance at hubby's PC and logged into DF. Not any wiser as to what I did except for the kills on Rustypal are critters. I probably stood too close to someone using an AoE. Danni was dressed in the same as in armory. And as I left her. Nothing remotely green - I only succeeded in undressing her by accidentally clicking her dress, adding it to transmogs and making it DISAPPEAR! I can't find out how to see what I did if ever I did anything as Retail has changed into one big bling-bling clamouring for attention.
So in short scrap it! I am never returning to Retail ever again.
If you get the tracker for Classic HC up and running count me in. But Retail ... NO WAY!
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Post by Dranina on Aug 17, 2023 12:25:10 GMT -5
And how on Azeroth and beyond can my newly added Rustyi @ Earthen Ring EU have MORE killing Blows than kills? From stats-page:
Total kills: 773 Total kills that grant experience or honor: 696
Creatures killed: 770 Different creature types killed: 6 Creature type killed the most: 310 Critters killed: 3
Killing Blows Total Killing Blows: 791 World Killing Blows: 773
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Post by Xaya on Aug 17, 2023 19:03:26 GMT -5
there are some (many?) bugs on Blizzard's size for stats. However, there is nothing else we can use to track things, since it's something the player have not control over (addon data could be messed with). It causes some problems (like something count as 'kills' even if it's objects), but what other option could we have (we sure won't go thru hours of video to check a run). Same problems could happen on classic API btw
we surely hope to be able to track classic when the API goes live, but it'll require many months of work
Iron champions : MoP, WoD, BfA, SL (12), DF (7) Green champion : BfA, SL, DF Bloodthirsty champion : SL (2), DF Workingman champion : BfA, SL, DF Pacifist champion : BfA, SL (2), DF (2) Tinman champion : BfA, SL
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Dranina
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Post by Dranina on Aug 18, 2023 2:18:50 GMT -5
I know and I agree. I am just venting my frustration, sorry. I think those killed "crittes" might actually be Ice blocks with a dwarf inside in Dun Morogh. I would not use neither trust an addon to get it right, and even less would I video document my whole run. The API and armory is the best we have.
Thank you for answering and for working on a tracker for Classic HC .
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