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Post by tanee on Feb 26, 2014 2:44:05 GMT -5
Since I am once again working on a monk, I have decided to record my journeys once again as I find it very helpful, should I die, to look back to see what I was successful at and what killed me in past journeys.
Deaths: 1. Level 80 to Magnatuar 2. Level 22 to Ogre in Loch 3. Level 46 to Grimmtotem in Needles. I know, very stupid to think there was even a possiblity.
My journey begins in Hellfire. I find healing spheres cumbersome. I much rather hit a heal the will automatically heal me rather than having to do an additional step of targeting myself. Energy has to be monitored closely to make sure I have enough for a heal. Monk takes an awful lot of spike damage, and I must be prepared for it. She kills relatively slowly although not as slow as pally. It's been awhile since I adventured on her, so I must get use to her killing style again. Touch of Death is awesome. Instant death to whoever dares battle me. Paralysis is perhaps the best cc, surpassing the utility of a hunter's trap and a mage's sheep. But still I move on with trepidation because of her weakness in damage output, the high damage she takes, and the awkward healing spheres.
My first Monk reached 80 before her untimely death by the Mighty Magnatuar. I have since learned that that quest/npc is not doable by a Monk & perhaps all other classes except a hunter. My second Monk died at 17 or 18 in Loch Modan of all places. Killed by a rare who bested me. Not one to lose lightly, I went back to destroy her on this new Monk. I was a level higher & I had purchased gear upgrades. Woe to the foe who dares cross my path.
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Post by tanee on Mar 11, 2014 4:35:49 GMT -5
Nagrand Level 67 and 3 bars
Hit Zangarmarsh. Completed all the quests there, including cave. Not sure what possessed me to go in that cave. It really isn't necessary for the zone or leveling. When I got to the boss, someone had just cleared. Lucky for me, the boss spawned without his 2 side kicks, and I was able to take him down without difficulty with touch of death. Even luckier still, the phantom mob was not here. I also did the 2 leader bosses. The mage leader was a little more difficult as her abilities really dropped down my hp quickly.
Healing spheres can now be used either on the bottom or top of water. I was very pleased to be able to fight water mobs on the surface of the water
Off to Terorkkar at 68 & 7 bars
Kills: 4203
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Post by tanee on Mar 15, 2014 1:13:16 GMT -5
Terokkar
I elected not to do the weeks quest line. Not only is it extremely time consuming, it's also somewhat dangerous and just not fun. I was hoping to get to 70, but I fell short, so I did a few quests out of Shatt. Namely collecting the feathers for lower city, venom sacs for Aldor against my Scryer rep, and collecting firewing signets for Scryer rep. That brought me to 79 and 17 bars. I didn't do the escort quest in the tomb, although I feel it's doable by a monk.
Decided what I don't like about monk. Healing spheres is awkward to me. I much rather have an auto self cast like druid & pally. Also, the healing is reactive too much. It's scary to have to wait until hp is so low. I don't like having to choose between healing or dps'ing, but not both like the druid. Druid gives a wonderful hot that after healing with the initial spike damage, and her hp stays at a decent level after that. Pally doesn't have to choose between dps'ing or healing as there's no ability to dps using holy power, at least for an iron. And finally, compared to hunter & druid, her dps stinks, and compared to a pally, she barely has dps over auto attacks.
Off to Nagrand at 79 and 17 bars.
Kills: 4661 Terokkar: 54/63 Quests: 1008/3000
PS Monk is not as stressful to play as pally was, and I don't get a headache playing her like I did on pally. And should I die, I would consider re-rolling her which I would not have done on pally.
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Post by Deidreven on Mar 15, 2014 10:36:21 GMT -5
Good luck Tanee. I'm cheering for you. I wrote up a little about what I did from 85 to 90. Let me know if I can be of any help.
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Post by tanee on Mar 20, 2014 12:13:32 GMT -5
Level 70 Nagrand
Well, if I thought I could hop & skip through Nagrand, boy was I mistaken. Monk just kills way too slowly. I tried to rush through Nagrand, but didn't happen. 1 1/2 bars from 71. Dailies xp goes up considerably at 71, and last night I tried to get there before doing them. I'm almost done with the zone, but think I still have hours to get done.
Had a scare. Was taking down a boss & his 2 side kicks, red, low hp warning started flashing. It wasn't that I couldn't do it, rather a Monk needs to more auto attack to use energy for heals. So I need to keep better track. I did all the ex-elite bosses without difficulty, although they took forever. Almost soloed Durn until someone joined in at the last minute.
Started a few dailies on Isle of Quel'Danas. Very challenging. Have to watch hp closely as a few of the mobs stun. And they hit pretty hard.
Deidreven, thank you for your 85-90 guide. It's very eye opening and helpful. Look forward to 89 when Monk finally gets some umph in her dps.
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Post by tanee on Mar 27, 2014 1:20:55 GMT -5
Level 73 Netherstorm
OMG, I don't know what possessed me to do all of the Island dailies. Those Naga are dreadful. The tension was so high it gave me a headache. Monk is so vulnerable mostly because she kills so slowly and seems to take an awful lot of damage. Wishing I now played her after pally instead of following druid. She seemed op compared to pally and a wet noodle compared to druid. In any event, that was the first and last time I do the Naga area on the Island. Life is too short. I'm sure its just my attitude of 1/2 full vs. 1/2 empty. I did get a feeling of invincibility when I used touch of death on a few boss mobs. Woot!
Not sure how much I will do in Netherstorm. Just dinged 73 flying in there with discovery xp. I did the escort quest. Yikes!! I take way to much risk I think. At one point during the escort, I had 3 mobs engaged. Luckily the little robot took one, I cc'd one, and fought one. I was afraid he'd break my cc, but thankfully he didn't. None of my other irons had 3 mobs, must be monk's bad luck.
Chugging along & anxious to get to wotlk.
Quests: 1163/3000 Blade's Edge: 53/86 Netherstorm: 8/120 Kills: 5918
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Post by Xaya on Mar 27, 2014 5:14:53 GMT -5
just my 2 cents : leave Netherstorm and go to borean tundra. On my on hunters and monks Netherstorm was harder than BT, and if you leave for BT then Quel'Danas dailies are way to far to be worth it
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Post by tanee on Mar 28, 2014 2:57:12 GMT -5
You are right Xayaqc. I have taken many risks with many close calls in Netherstorm. The close calls were mainly not keeping a close watch on my hp. Of course using touch of death on a mob that had a buff up for me to take 50% of my damage didn't help none. I even did the cow escort and all of Town Square except the group quests LOL. Mostly I figured if pally could do it, so could monk. I checked pally, she had 58 quests in Netherstorm. So far Monk has 51, and there are quite a lot of easy quests still at Stormspire & Eco-Dome that I haven't been to on Monk. But I think the quests in BT are giving 20k xp whereas in Netherstorm they're about 10k. I am 74 and 5-1/2 bars now. My first Monk died at 80 by the Mighty Magnatuar. I can't remember exactly when, which, & what she did exactly. So this journal is my way of keeping a log should I have to repeat the process as well as let others know the journey incase the would like to take it up.
I think I will head over to BT to see how she goes.
Quests: 1207/3000 Netherstorm: 51/120 Kills: 6302
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Post by tanee on Mar 30, 2014 1:23:46 GMT -5
Level 75 Borean Tundra
Just dinged 75 questing in BT. Had a scare. Was killing Leviroth for "The Emissary". I had this bright notion to stay as high above the air portal as possible. As soon as I engaged the boss, I realized the healing spheres like to sink to the bottom in water. Wow. I quickly swam to the bottom with half hp. Luckily touch of death worked immediately & the boss was instantly killed. Goes to show you how fragile ironman toons really are, especially some classes. Cant wait until I'm 89 and op.
Quests: 1243 BT: Shucks, cant track, but not many yet Kills: 6445
Just dinged 76 Finished up D.E.H.T.A., at least all that I am going to do. Lunch Box was relatively easy as both he and his rider, Nedar, could be cc'd. Had this brilliant idea of I cc'ing Lunch Box so he wouldn't respawn before I was finished killing Nedar. Except that didn't work because with Lunch Box cc'd, I couldn't reach Nedar to mdps him. So I had to switch cc, and as suspected, Lunch Box respawned before I was done. But having anticipated this, I wasn't near his spawn point. I don't do Kaw the Mammoth, not that it can't be done, just not worth the aggravation. Clam Master is always a little intimidating. But someone had just killed him, and he respawns before the 3 patting sharks, so he went down quickly. The water elemental boss at Warfin Village gave me a little shaking up. I made sure I was on the bottom for healing spheres, but apparently he as an ability that knocks one up instead of the traditional knock back, making healing spheres worthless and taking half my hp in the process. I swam back down, healed up, then finished him off. And, OMG, I forgot to use the quest item on his corpse, and I had to kill him again. To kill the whale boss, I was able to engage him on the ice berg and use healing spheres. Not sure if I'll do Coldarra. Its actually a little higher zone the BT and HF. Mobs I'm killing now are 69-70 whereas Coldarra is 73 I think. I have always enjoyed Coldarra, so I guess I will wait until I am done with the rest of BT before I decide. Pretty sure it will be tough for Monk, and the flying dragons are always risky should they catch me flying. A lot of pats, a lot of casters make me unhealthy, unwise, and dead. Can't wait until I'm op.
Quests: 1282/3000 Kills: 6574
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Post by tanee on Apr 2, 2014 17:23:01 GMT -5
Level 77 Somewhere in BT & HF
Oh Lordy! Why can a level 77 pick up a level 80 daily at argent? Went to argent & grabbed the quests. The beginning ones don't require any fighting. But not thinking, I grabbed Fate of the Fallen, np it doesn't require any fighting either. But then I also grabed Training in the Field as it can be done in the same place as Fallen. hmmmm. I swooped down (really need to be careful of that swooping) and engaged a scourge in battle. OMG!!! He's red. OMG!!! The quests are orange!!! Well, Monk can be amazing even though she kills as slowly as grass grows. I wasn't taking more damage than my focus regen and ability to heal. Wow!!! Don't get me wrong, she's not op and still scary to play. But, it was thrilling to be able to kill a mob 3 levels higher than I am. All I can say is WOW!
I also opened up the walrus dailies. Yuck, so many underwater/water quests. I almost chickened out. But then I remembered I had already gotten a Monk to 80 before she died, and I was pretty sure she had done these at around the same level. I did the ex-elite one in the cave. I saved touch of death for the bear as the pirate wasn't hitting very hard. Turns out paralysis works on both the pirate & the bear, although I didn't need to use it. I generally like to use paralysis early in a fight just to make sure they're not immune. You know those little robot things in BT are immune? How stupid. They also hit pretty hard & have a lot of pats, so would have been a lot nicer if they hadn't been immune. Not sure if I will continue picking up kill quests at argent at this level. Hmmm. Tempting. I might. But not sure yet.
OMW to the pup daily in Dragonblight. Surely if I can do a level 80 daily at argent, I can do that pup daily.
Haven't decided if I will stay in BT & HF until the quests turn gray. The mobs turn gray before the quests do. Somewhat discouraging to not get xp for kills, so it's quite possible I will move on as Monk is able to take on more than Pally was, but a lot less than Hunter and Druid.
Children's Week & Fires are coming soon. It sure would be nice if I could get Druid & Monk up to a level that those events would be very beneficial. I must press on. I must, must, must push myself to the very limits. Can't wait til Monk is op.
Quests: 1354/3000 Kills: 6829
Level 78
A lot of exciting things on the Monk. So many things that tormented/stressed pally were very ez. From just being able to cc & grab what I needed, to instant kills with touch of death. Sometimes I just waited for touch of death to come off cd cuz I was being lazy. When I was wanting to make sure the big, old elite in HF wouldn't creep up on me, boom, instant kill. Some of the starting quests in HF are kinda scary, in particular in that cave in the beginning. Didn't phase Monk at all. Even the quest when u have that ball of protection in the cave & have to get the thingy & all those ghouls are there. All other toons I brought through there were taking a lot of damage, but Monk didn't take one bit of damage. On classes that could, I even had to use naaru to assure my hp survived it.
I finally realized why I consider Monk weak & squishy. She takes massive damage. Things hit her way harder than Pally & Druid, although not sure compared to Hunter as hunter doesn't generally get hit. It's possible that Druid is taking similar damage, but because of the HOT, it's not noticeable. The choice is to heal or dps, but not both. It's very easy to use all focus, and then boom, mob stuns or pat shows up or unexpected spike damage or something, then boom, no focus to heal & she's dead. I have to really monitor her hp closely. The slightest misjudgment and it's over, whereas there is some room for mistake on other classes I've ironmanned. OK, so her cc is op, but she can be dead phenomenally easily and quickly. So if I just accept that fact that a lot of her damage will come from auto attacks & save focus (focus/energy, hahaha, deal with it) for healing, I will find her more enjoyable to level.
7 bars to 79, and many mobs I'm killing are not giving xp. Probably should just head to Dragonblight.
Quests: 140/3000 Howling Fjord: 69/130 Kills: 6968
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Post by tanee on Apr 3, 2014 20:50:08 GMT -5
Level 79 (Well, have dinged 80 since coming here) Dragonblight Holy cow, I failed at the quest, "No Place to Run", the quest that has you defending the ward u place at Obsidian Dragonshire. Was here before on an imc Monk. Didn't have any problems until Magnataur and he killed me at 80. The only thing I can think of is someone came along and took it upon themselves to help me. I did try again, and this time I fought the mobs away from the ward. I would try to cc one, it didn't hold long. I would use touch of death on one, but has a long cd so I could only use it once. I would taunt, then that would go on cd, and then the mobs would run back to the ward. Fortunately, it worked. But I was sure was surprised to find my dps too low to do it normally. I even had tried the crane kick in hopes that they would stay on me & not the ward. They didn't. There for a bit I was afraid it was going to be like Pally who couldn't do it. But for all my efforts, I won. Oh, wait, just realized I haven't gotten a weapon upgrade. I'm still using the level 60 Ancient Bone Mace from hellfire Edit: Just picked up the Dalaran Stave with 83-155 damage vs. the 51-96 Ancient Bone Mace I had been using. Had a boss quest I decided to pass on because I couldn't remember if my first Monk did it. Bonesunder or something like that. Not sure if I killed him or if I died by Magnataur before I even attempted him. In any event, if he is as bad as Magnataur, it's certainly better to pass on him. Hmmm, pretty close to the end of Dragonblight. I wish I could remember if I did that big worm. I think I would have done him before Magnataur, and I don't remember Monk being afraid of any quests until my demise. He should go down pretty quickly, but he has a lot of adds surrounding him. If I save touch of death for him, I should be able to kill him. Druid killed him, but she's one tough little cookie. Sigh, can't wait until I'm op. Quests: 1485/3000 Dragonblight: 76/115 Kills: 7236 OMG, I need to quit taking risks. Just almost lost a second 80 imc Monk. I Was doing the level 80 argent daily, Training in the Field. I was so jazzed about my new staff. Started to kill a level 80 scourage which goes something like this, miss, heal, heal, miss, miss, heal, hit. Another one showed up just as I engaged, and my paralysis missed. Wozzer! Wasn't pretty. Moral of the story, "stop, look, & watch" before engaging mobs. Eventually I got the hp down low enough on the first one to use touch of death. Sigh, terrifying moment. Now off to Lord Everblaze.
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Post by tanee on Apr 4, 2014 0:25:47 GMT -5
Death to DC at 80 and 6 bars. I was in the process of doing Stocking up & Nozzlerust Defense. I had just killed a mob & mounted up & flew up a little bit. My guess is the elite that flies around found me while I was dc'ing or re-logging.
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Post by alonaa on Apr 4, 2014 5:42:16 GMT -5
Oh no, really sorry to hear this. I've suffered several deaths to DC & it has to be the most frustrating & distressing way to go. I've never really dabbled with a Monk properly so don't know their skills intimately but with my gang I religiously use dots, poisons, totems, hots etc to give them a chance to keep me going through a dc & hopefully finish a mob off even though they don't give out decent numbers . I know this wouldn't have helped you in this situation but it's worth thinking about even if the damage & healing is minimal. I know for a fact it has rescued my rogue & priest at least once. Ramble over I've kept a low profile with my ironmen recently due to the problems Blizzard has been having recently. My normal characters have suffered badly from lag & dcs the last few weeks so my ironmen would have been history by now. Bad luck anyways & I feel for you.
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Post by Deidreven on Apr 4, 2014 8:04:01 GMT -5
I'm so sorry Tanee. I agree that a DC death must be at the top of the list of frustrating deaths. I hope you start a new one. If you do, please keep us updated again. I enjoy reading how your journey is going.
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Post by ferrestella on Apr 4, 2014 15:53:24 GMT -5
I'm so sorry to hear of your horrible death by DC. That is the worst, since there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. RIP and I do hope you reroll.
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